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eric cantor came out and said he will not support it. there has been tension between the top two republican leaders, a rivalry. many people have written about it. it's not a big secret. i'm not talking out of school here. eric cantor stood four square behind boehner throughout this negotiation over the course of the last two months. ten days ago, in the speaker's plan b, when that crashed and burned, eric cantor stood behind john boehner. so we don't know -- it doesn't appear. we can't report there's division among them now. but it certainly is a significant development. obviously cantor is influential, particularly among house conservatives who are the heart of the republican party. john boehner has said in the days leading up to this, as it was being negotiated this deal between mcconnell and biden, that he would not put something on the floor that was a democratic -- would require a majority of democrats to pass. a lot of people talked over the course of the last several weeks about the majority, the majority tradition in the house of
eric cantor came out and said he will not support it. there has been tension between the top two republican leaders, a rivalry. many people have written about it. it's not a big secret. i'm not talking out of school here. eric cantor stood four square behind boehner throughout this negotiation over the course of the last two months. ten days ago, in the speaker's plan b, when that crashed and burned, eric cantor stood behind john boehner. so we don't know -- it doesn't appear. we can't report...
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do you really think that eric cantor thought that? is. >> i think eric cantor knew exactly what he was doing. >> do you think he wanted that public, though? >> i don't think he minded so much. because i think that given his -- if you saw the speaker, the leader and everybody else work together on plan b. but on the final cliff deal, guess what? cantor and mccarthy -- >> but ryan went with boehner. and that was a big deal that showed there wasn't this, like -- >> ryan -- look, ryan understands the realities of governing, and he takes a long view. he was the -- look, ryan was the lone wolf at a time when republicans didn't have many people pushing for everything they say they want now. but i think cantor was looking to create a little separation. >> but i can't imagine he thought christie -- that's got to -- whatever bad vibes that were between the bad mojo if you will between boehner and cantor that supposedly had been erased, it's gone. >> well, i think that that just highlights all the divisions that we're seeing right now in the rep
do you really think that eric cantor thought that? is. >> i think eric cantor knew exactly what he was doing. >> do you think he wanted that public, though? >> i don't think he minded so much. because i think that given his -- if you saw the speaker, the leader and everybody else work together on plan b. but on the final cliff deal, guess what? cantor and mccarthy -- >> but ryan went with boehner. and that was a big deal that showed there wasn't this, like -- >>...
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eric cantor did not vote for it. he voted against it. >> while. >> that is what we understand right now. what is the next cep, and when will the president get that? if you want to comment on what we just learned about the votes from speaker boehner and paul ryan. the budget grew roll from the right voting for it and. cantor's saying no. >> i think it's fairly extraordinary. there has been a lot of talk, a lot has been written and speculated upon about eric kanter and the rivalry between eric kanter and john banner. folks happen to think -- i am getting an update here. let me update you. this is a press release just sent out by the press office just behind me. remarks will be open. 11:20 will get a statement here in the briefing room. you and i have been talking earlier, punctuating this long campaign, this long after that he has had to pass this bill averting the fiscal cliff. people on the left have been disappointed in the fact that he did not stick to that $250,000 threshold that he and has raced up to $450,000. b
eric cantor did not vote for it. he voted against it. >> while. >> that is what we understand right now. what is the next cep, and when will the president get that? if you want to comment on what we just learned about the votes from speaker boehner and paul ryan. the budget grew roll from the right voting for it and. cantor's saying no. >> i think it's fairly extraordinary. there has been a lot of talk, a lot has been written and speculated upon about eric kanter and the...
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eric cantor did not. other prominent republicans did not. >> well, at the end of the day what needed to get done got done. >> it doesn't get done. i have to differ with you there. nothing got done. >> no, no, the tax policies that all went up yesterday are not all going to go up. there was $3.8 trillion tax increase that went into effect at midnight yesterday. that didn't happen. so don't say nothing got done. >> you have a lot coming up. that's why i'm asking you. >> one, we need a senate that functions, a senate that does appropriations bills. and a president that leads, and all of those things need to happen, should happen. we've got to find spending cuts. we've gotten to a point where i hope we can stay at on tax policy. now we need to get to spending policy. >> not to bead a dead horse here, but you just had peter king in the last two hours sc e excorating the speaker, is that a temporary problem, or does it speak to a bigger problem? your party? >> it's always bad when you have people saying stay ou
eric cantor did not. other prominent republicans did not. >> well, at the end of the day what needed to get done got done. >> it doesn't get done. i have to differ with you there. nothing got done. >> no, no, the tax policies that all went up yesterday are not all going to go up. there was $3.8 trillion tax increase that went into effect at midnight yesterday. that didn't happen. so don't say nothing got done. >> you have a lot coming up. that's why i'm asking you....
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also, eric cantor is very tied in to wall street. and a lot of finance republicans, the ones i talk to who talk to those guys from the big banks, they did not want to see the markets open tomorrow with this deal up in the air there was definitely a pushback from that community as these negotiations move forward. >> we saw the dow react positively there the other day. and then it could go negative again after we have seen a long string of decreases in the dow index leading up to this vote. and that one pop in the dow of over 100 points. >> right. >> because there was word of a deal coming through there. they're feeling very positive about that. >> and foreign markets are opening, as i'm sure are open now in some parts of the world there is that fear that the foreign markets will start to go down on the u.s., and that it could lead to it all going to haywire tomorrow. >> january 2nd in many parts of the world. now one of the -- just to drill down a little more on this hiccup, and those who were against this senate bill, why did that ne
also, eric cantor is very tied in to wall street. and a lot of finance republicans, the ones i talk to who talk to those guys from the big banks, they did not want to see the markets open tomorrow with this deal up in the air there was definitely a pushback from that community as these negotiations move forward. >> we saw the dow react positively there the other day. and then it could go negative again after we have seen a long string of decreases in the dow index leading up to this vote....
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and then it is eric, it is first name eric, with eric cantor. everyone thinks that chris christie wants to be a republican presidential candidate. it is getting stranger and stranger, imagining chris christie on a republican primary stage with all of this bashing of republicans he is willing to do. >> yeah, it is amazing, palace intrigue at its worst. eric cantor is now the new jersey and new york's politician's best friend when it comes to sandy relief. the worse, he is a terrible speaker and doesn't know what he is doing. but 85 members had to walk the plank, vote for tax cuts with no spending cuts. he didn't feel like he could make them walk the blank again. he is in a bind, john boehner is in an impossible situation and has this deputy, eric cantor, in an impossible situation. >> and you're from staten island. i don't think everybody understands that the new york delegation normally sends exactly one republican to the house of representatives, that is your congressman, michael grim, who you just reelected. he had a serious problem with what
and then it is eric, it is first name eric, with eric cantor. everyone thinks that chris christie wants to be a republican presidential candidate. it is getting stranger and stranger, imagining chris christie on a republican primary stage with all of this bashing of republicans he is willing to do. >> yeah, it is amazing, palace intrigue at its worst. eric cantor is now the new jersey and new york's politician's best friend when it comes to sandy relief. the worse, he is a terrible...
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cantor, the house republican leader who walked with the speaker but this afternoon, opposed the fiscal cliff deal that speaker boehner tonight would allow to pass the house. >> the senate passed it this morning, 89-8. mcgrath republicans cooperating. to reverse the house tax hikes on 98 percent of americans that took effect at the midnight fiscal cliff, but leaving it in the place tax hikes on the wealthy, income over $400,000 and postponed the spending cuts. democrats pushed for house approval. >> the issue of an up or down vote should not be questioned. >> house republicans' battle. cantor demanding budget cuts be added to the bill. >> we are serious about cutting spending, though there are not. >> we are going to see where we are then vote. >> the moderates wob -- won. house passage all but assured. >> we are working hard to pull ourselves back from that cliff. we went over the cliff and are pulling ourselves back. >> it is not a one day quick fix. looks like the final margin of victory in the house will be exactly 40 votes. there may be some shakeout there. but a solid win in the h
cantor, the house republican leader who walked with the speaker but this afternoon, opposed the fiscal cliff deal that speaker boehner tonight would allow to pass the house. >> the senate passed it this morning, 89-8. mcgrath republicans cooperating. to reverse the house tax hikes on 98 percent of americans that took effect at the midnight fiscal cliff, but leaving it in the place tax hikes on the wealthy, income over $400,000 and postponed the spending cuts. democrats pushed for house...
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i go to eric cantor and he tells me what? >> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how does he reach them? the ones necessary for any kind of majority? >> he doesn't necessarily need them. if he can get senate republicans, then -- >> is that his game right now to go around his hard core right? >> it is. because then the hard core right isn't just blaming john boehner for all the troubles of the world. they're also -- >> can he allow the house of representatives to work its will with the minority of republicans? >> yes, he can. >> glen, is this your view? if we get a solution next week, it's probably because the speaker allows a minority of republicans, m
i go to eric cantor and he tells me what? >> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how...
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we still did not see that eric cantor voted yet. but there was criticism for lacking leadership among the voters. he is putting himself out there with the minority of his party, saying support this deal. >> vic, go ahead. >> i'm sorry, richard? >> mike viquiera go ahead. >> i just wanted to point out something here one of the problems all along is that republicans didn't want to violate a core principle of conservativism, a core pledge that they made never to raise taxes or revenues. this individual grover norquist who has sponsored this pledge i'm going to read a tweet from grover norquist that we've just seen here. he said the bush tax cuts lapsed at midnight last night. every republican voting for the senate bill is cutting taxes and keeping his or her pledge. and richard we talked about this in the -- >> it just passed, just passed. no more time remaining, it now has passed the house with the senate amendment. >> okay and now we're heading well over, just caution, let's wait until the gavel comes down but strange things can happ
we still did not see that eric cantor voted yet. but there was criticism for lacking leadership among the voters. he is putting himself out there with the minority of his party, saying support this deal. >> vic, go ahead. >> i'm sorry, richard? >> mike viquiera go ahead. >> i just wanted to point out something here one of the problems all along is that republicans didn't want to violate a core principle of conservativism, a core pledge that they made never to raise taxes...
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you had eric cantor voting no. is there a split as charles talking about here on the panel developing inside of the republican party that is being used and possibly taken advantage of by democrats including the white house? >> well, i will say something that is simplest thing to say is that charles is right. and that is a freebie. but it is not right as it relates to or it doesn't apply to not april politicable relating to boehner and cantor this, is a cal clue coup laigs. inside of the caucus that boehner is the, taking it, he says i brought the deal so i'm going to vote for it. ryan who is a pragmatist is saying i am the budget committee chairman. then, they're letting the other guys off the hook. if you look how small number of people is, that is voting in favor, how small the number of republicans voting in favor of this is, they're letting just about everybody off the hook. they're taking it and they're hoping that as few a number of human beings is watching this, as is possible. and that they will let this pa
you had eric cantor voting no. is there a split as charles talking about here on the panel developing inside of the republican party that is being used and possibly taken advantage of by democrats including the white house? >> well, i will say something that is simplest thing to say is that charles is right. and that is a freebie. but it is not right as it relates to or it doesn't apply to not april politicable relating to boehner and cantor this, is a cal clue coup laigs. inside of the...
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eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted military. i think this was the right step tonight. but we're going to have to have a lot more in terms of democratic participation in dealing with entitlements. hopefully that will come. >> you said something very interesting several weeks ago when you first suggested why don't weep get this out of the way, this tax debate because it's sucking out all the air out of the room and then you take away the cover republicans have to discuss -
eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're...
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his deputies, eric cantor, mccarthy, were both there when plan b was introduced and failed to be introduced. so the logical successors weren't there. >> so paul ryan is the person who has the support of the house of speakers. those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of house republicans to drive the debate is being underquestioned right now. people are going to look to this experience as to how john bane err may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> sam, on this kind of deal, there's always last-minute horse trading. things get thrown on the paper and the base finds out and gets upset. what gets him upset when he's trying to get it done by the end o
his deputies, eric cantor, mccarthy, were both there when plan b was introduced and failed to be introduced. so the logical successors weren't there. >> so paul ryan is the person who has the support of the house of speakers. those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if...
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cantor, kevin mccarthy. anything they learned is they looked chaotic and weak yesterday when they were going in two ways. basically becoming the laughing stock of the country. a lot of people left confused and even worried because of some weird inner party dynamic they were going to be hit with a m s massive tax increase, but because of what happened this time around, there's going to be a serious move by the gop leadership not to look like they are bending over in any capacity to accommodate the president. they are going to push this to the very end. we'll see what happens. i hope i'm wrong for the sake of the economy and everybody's nerves, but you could play this tape come march first, i think we're going to be having this same discussion. >> luke, i guess you're not going to have a vacation ever, but if you do get a break, i want you to contemplate a world in which the house majority leader and the whip, the guy responsible for whipping votes, vote against their own leader. what kind of world is that? >>
cantor, kevin mccarthy. anything they learned is they looked chaotic and weak yesterday when they were going in two ways. basically becoming the laughing stock of the country. a lot of people left confused and even worried because of some weird inner party dynamic they were going to be hit with a m s massive tax increase, but because of what happened this time around, there's going to be a serious move by the gop leadership not to look like they are bending over in any capacity to accommodate...
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eric cantor emerging from a meeting saying he does not support the senate-passed bill. house speaker bonn janer is not likely to bring the senate bill to the floor without changes is what we're hearing and in a statement boehner's spokesman said the speaker and leader laid out options to the members and listened to feedback. the lack of spending cuts in the senate bill was our universal concern amongst members in today's meetings. conversations will continue throughout the afternoon on the path forward. outgoing republican congressman steven latourette told nbc's luke russert the senate bill did not stand much of a bill in the house. take a listen. >> i think it's a little unreasonable for senator reid to say that something they produced on new year's eve, produced by a bunch of sleep-deprived octogenarians is what we should adopt within 48 hours. >> laetset's bring in mike viqu. we understand there have been meetings throughout the afternoon. >> reporter: the future of this bill, the deal to avert the fsk fiscal cliff and is in turmoil. here is what's happening right n
eric cantor emerging from a meeting saying he does not support the senate-passed bill. house speaker bonn janer is not likely to bring the senate bill to the floor without changes is what we're hearing and in a statement boehner's spokesman said the speaker and leader laid out options to the members and listened to feedback. the lack of spending cuts in the senate bill was our universal concern amongst members in today's meetings. conversations will continue throughout the afternoon on the path...
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i'm with eric cantor. this bill in its present form is not good enough and the american people are smart enough to know that what you don't pay today and owe tomorrow, you'll have to pay tomorrow. >> we've got to go, congressman. you still have confidence in the speak a speaker? >> i have confidence in the speaker. he's making the process open but of course that includes people like myself and leader cantor who say we have to be open to change. >> darrell issa, thank you very much. >>> much more and the white house reaction to this latest rift between the house speaker and the republican majority leader when it comes to the fiscal cliff bill. what's going on? >>> plus. >> the latest on hillary clinton's blood clot. when she might be released from the hospital, what could it mean for her future. lots of news happening right here right now in "the situation room." look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice
i'm with eric cantor. this bill in its present form is not good enough and the american people are smart enough to know that what you don't pay today and owe tomorrow, you'll have to pay tomorrow. >> we've got to go, congressman. you still have confidence in the speak a speaker? >> i have confidence in the speaker. he's making the process open but of course that includes people like myself and leader cantor who say we have to be open to change. >> darrell issa, thank you very...
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lou: we have not heard from speaker john boehner's office or eric cantor officially, but fox news has learned a representative from the house, republican has told one of our people on the hill he does not think there are enough votes in the house to pass this, and leadership, republican leadership, mitch mcconnell, even john boehner even though he is not a part of this deal are playing with fire. has there been any official word from anybody other than nancy pelosi? >> we got no official word on this. a number of house republicans who are upset with the way things have been going so we are not quite sure who's a republican member was who said that, but you have got to kind of look at leadership here or there. they will not bring a bill to the floor if they do no did not believe they have the votes to do this thing. adam: just for brevity, we want to show you the shot from times square. square. million people celebrating the new year. everyone of these people can expect a tax increase because without both chambers passing any kind of legislation, you make $50,000 per year as of 12:01 j
lou: we have not heard from speaker john boehner's office or eric cantor officially, but fox news has learned a representative from the house, republican has told one of our people on the hill he does not think there are enough votes in the house to pass this, and leadership, republican leadership, mitch mcconnell, even john boehner even though he is not a part of this deal are playing with fire. has there been any official word from anybody other than nancy pelosi? >> we got no official...
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eric cantor votes against it. it is eric cantor's -- >> and kevin mccarthy -- >> bill: it was eric cantor's baby to have the sandy vote and john boehner said you vote against me on this i won't give you this vote. they're playing games. as you point out, there are real people, millions of them who are really suffering and need the help to get back in their homes right? and this stuff is -- >> you saw how fast they turned -- that speaker boehner turned it around after he got such blowback from governor christie and others. >> bill: if we can -- i know you have to go because you've got an important day starting with your own swearing in, if we can get over this fiscal hump, what are some of the other issues that you believe this 113th congress, with the president, will be able to take up this year? immigration reform? or what do you see? >> i think immigration reform is a huge priority for the democrats and for the president. and i think the republicans want to come to the table because they lost everyone except the
eric cantor votes against it. it is eric cantor's -- >> and kevin mccarthy -- >> bill: it was eric cantor's baby to have the sandy vote and john boehner said you vote against me on this i won't give you this vote. they're playing games. as you point out, there are real people, millions of them who are really suffering and need the help to get back in their homes right? and this stuff is -- >> you saw how fast they turned -- that speaker boehner turned it around after he got...
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eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted military. i think this was the right step tonight. but we're going to have to have a lot more in terms of democratic participation in dealing with entitlements. hopefully that will come. >> you said something very interesting several weeks ago when you first suggested why don't weep get this out of the way, this tax debate because it's sucking out all the air out of the room and then you take away the cover republicans have to discuss -
eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're...
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he is so scared of eric cantor. that is the situation we are in. host: the house the bell system has gone off. these alert members there is a vote. there is at least about 15 minutes before the house comes into session. it is currently in recess, subject to the call of the chair. the bells have gone off. it looks like they will be coming back into session. while we are waiting for that, we want to show you the democratic house leadership press conference that was held at two hours ago. here it is. but also gave us a thoughtful and detailed explanation of what has gone on and how it was that he and the president, working with the republican leaders in both houses, were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. and so frank in his conversation in explaining, as much as he could, about what has transpired over the last several weeks. we are now waiting to hear from our republican colleagues whether or not they want to do what the senate did in a very bipartisan fashion and giv
he is so scared of eric cantor. that is the situation we are in. host: the house the bell system has gone off. these alert members there is a vote. there is at least about 15 minutes before the house comes into session. it is currently in recess, subject to the call of the chair. the bells have gone off. it looks like they will be coming back into session. while we are waiting for that, we want to show you the democratic house leadership press conference that was held at two hours ago. here it...
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eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted military. i think this was the right step tonight. but we're going to have to have a lot more in terms of democratic participation in dealing with entitlements. hopefully that will come. >> you said something very interesting several weeks ago when you first suggested why don't weep get this out of the way, this tax debate because it's sucking out all the air out of the room and then you take away the cover republicans have to discuss -
eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're...
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speaker boehner wanted it past but eric cantor was against it. it turns out the tension goes a lot farther back for two other members of the caucus. it starts with darrell issa who voted against the fiscal cliff. >> i'm with eric cantor. i can't vote for it in its current form. the senate and the president and vice president failed to meet their obligation. their own stated obligation which was to bring us a balanced bill. one that had tax adjustment, yes. but also had spending cuts. this one fails at that and fails badly. >> so enter ohio republican steve latourette who wasn't jazzed but took the plunge and voted yes. >> i went to the same high school as congressman issa but we haven't agreed on much since. >> did you agree in high school? >> i didn't see him a lot in class, so i don't know. >> somehow i doubt they'll show up together at the reunion. one point of agreement, both congressmen suggested that new year's eve was partially to blame for what the senate put together. >> i think it's a little unreasonable for senator reid to say somethin
speaker boehner wanted it past but eric cantor was against it. it turns out the tension goes a lot farther back for two other members of the caucus. it starts with darrell issa who voted against the fiscal cliff. >> i'm with eric cantor. i can't vote for it in its current form. the senate and the president and vice president failed to meet their obligation. their own stated obligation which was to bring us a balanced bill. one that had tax adjustment, yes. but also had spending cuts. this...
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eric cantor voted against it. house majority kevin mccarthy voted against it. peter roskam voted against it. paul ryan, the vice presidential candidate voted for it. so you have a very split republican leadership perhaps speaker boehner might not be up to the task. that could play into it, although he has gone broad support and it may not be an issue the one that is rich edson lycra capital. thank you for keeping us updated on the solvay, we know it's been a busy day. we appreciate it. rich: thank you. diane: that's the latest on the fiscal cliff. we will not be going over it. we finally have a deal. the president that's one small step. tune in to fox business tomorrow morning at 5:00 a.m. the maxis has been a fox business special report. the return you to your regularly scheduled programming. john is 42. mortgage. married. two great kids. he wants to protect his family with a $500,000 term life insurance policy. what do you think it'll cost him? a hundred dollars a month? sixty? forty? actually none of the above. john can get a $500,000 policy -from a highl ra
eric cantor voted against it. house majority kevin mccarthy voted against it. peter roskam voted against it. paul ryan, the vice presidential candidate voted for it. so you have a very split republican leadership perhaps speaker boehner might not be up to the task. that could play into it, although he has gone broad support and it may not be an issue the one that is rich edson lycra capital. thank you for keeping us updated on the solvay, we know it's been a busy day. we appreciate it. rich:...
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speaker boehner, eric cantor have not been overly supportive so far. they reserve the right to amend it. there are three options. we could all hold hands and jump off into the deep end together. that would be the house republican conference approving of this bill, at least enough of them joining the democrats to move it forward. you could also see house republicans try to amend it. that's what tom cole is talking about on your air. he doesn't think that would happen and doesn't want that to happen but it certainly is a possibility if some conservative house republicans say we don't like this part of the deal let's send it back over to the senate. that puts us in sort of a chaos with so little time. today is a free day. the markets close. what happens tomorrow if there is still not a fiscal deal in place? lastly if there is an all out rejection all bets are off, we're jumping over the fiscal cliff. it is up to john boehner to gauge how his conference is going to react to this bill and from folks i've talked to there is a little bit of nervousness among
speaker boehner, eric cantor have not been overly supportive so far. they reserve the right to amend it. there are three options. we could all hold hands and jump off into the deep end together. that would be the house republican conference approving of this bill, at least enough of them joining the democrats to move it forward. you could also see house republicans try to amend it. that's what tom cole is talking about on your air. he doesn't think that would happen and doesn't want that to...
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eric cantor received even more. $1.8 million. aside from the fact that they're not showing human compassion, they're not showing much political savvy. >> in addition to new york and new jersey being atm's. it's also the number one media market in the country. so -- >> exactly. >> you picked the wrong fight with the wrong guy. a guy who has no problem speaking his mind, a guy from a state that has given you a lot of money, and a guy like that can get not just the new york media market, but philadelphia's media market. this is at the drop of a hat he can get the media -- >> guys, guys, if the "new york times" and the new york post and the daily news, write mean editorials about john boehner, is not going to cost him a single vote in the caucus election today. >> well, they already saw it's probably not going to cost him peter king's vote. even pete king is full of air and not much else. >> this is a national story as well. funding went more quickly to hurricane ike. you know, it's -- there's still some people really suffering. >> i
eric cantor received even more. $1.8 million. aside from the fact that they're not showing human compassion, they're not showing much political savvy. >> in addition to new york and new jersey being atm's. it's also the number one media market in the country. so -- >> exactly. >> you picked the wrong fight with the wrong guy. a guy who has no problem speaking his mind, a guy from a state that has given you a lot of money, and a guy like that can get not just the new york media...
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during a year and a half ago during the debt ceiling debate where house majority leader eric cantor acted up and acted as spokesman for the farther right wing of the caucus, but i think here there's not a lot of suggestions that his speakership could go down but i think it is important for john boehner to reestablish the idea he is somewhat in control of his membership and that they trust him and that he is the leader here. he sort of allowed the senate to take over here really sort of gave up in some ways a few days ago and said, hey. you guys come up with something and bring it back to us. so i think there is a lot of pressure and there is going to be a lot of calling, cajoling, and making sure that this thing is going to get the votes, at least enough of a combination of democrat and republican votes later today. >> jill, this has been billed as a compromise. what did each side get and have to give with this bill and can either side claim victory here? >> well, i think both sides can claim victory but also both sides lost on certain respects. president obama obviously for five, six yea
during a year and a half ago during the debt ceiling debate where house majority leader eric cantor acted up and acted as spokesman for the farther right wing of the caucus, but i think here there's not a lot of suggestions that his speakership could go down but i think it is important for john boehner to reestablish the idea he is somewhat in control of his membership and that they trust him and that he is the leader here. he sort of allowed the senate to take over here really sort of gave up...
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cantor coming up. >> stephanie: crazy cowboy, eric eric cantor. >> okay corral. and it won't be okay for you. it will be super okay for me because i moisturize. >> stephanie: oh, boehner boehner. ♪ ♪ i am just an orange boy ♪ ♪ i have squandered my influence for a pocketful of tax cuts for the filthy rich ♪ ♪ my eyes get wet still a man cries when he thinks about which fabric is the best ♪ ♪ on the house floor stands the boehner and he's whining constantly ♪ ♪ and the fiscal cliff reminds him of every vote that let him down ♪ ♪ as he cried out in his anger and his shame ♪ ♪ i'm weeping i am weeping but he still remains ♪ ♪ crying eyes ♪ ♪ crying eyes ♪ >> yea! rocky mountain mike. >> stephanie: rocky mountain mike never on vacation. >> never. >> stephanie: you gotta keep working while mama's on vacation. go! great stuff. we have more. >> the boehner. >> stephanie: sunday, he warned president obama he should not cast blame on republicans. no! why would he do that? for a possible failure. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] becaus
cantor coming up. >> stephanie: crazy cowboy, eric eric cantor. >> okay corral. and it won't be okay for you. it will be super okay for me because i moisturize. >> stephanie: oh, boehner boehner. ♪ ♪ i am just an orange boy ♪ ♪ i have squandered my influence for a pocketful of tax cuts for the filthy rich ♪ ♪ my eyes get wet still a man cries when he thinks about which fabric is the best ♪ ♪ on the house floor stands the boehner and he's whining constantly ♪...
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a spokesperson for the house majority leader eric cantor says there is nothing to sign off on. in fact, house republicans adjourned forb the day and they will be back january 1 at noon. joining us our capitol hill producer who is on all things for us, fiscal cliff and otherwise. chad, thanks for being here. i guess the republicans in the house side are saying we don't have anything. that this is just vice president biden and senator mcconnell and until we do it is great to read all these stories but there is no deal. >> that has always been one of the concerns here that getting buy-in from the house republicans will be hard because they always wanted spending cuts and always wanted to do something perhaps with the see questions it teresa a top aide to a house majority leader, eric cantor says we have no paper so there is nothing to sign off on. interesting to watch the dynamic. if this gets through the senate and moves to the house of representatives because the house democrats there are not going to want to care relationship all of the water on this. the house republicans are
a spokesperson for the house majority leader eric cantor says there is nothing to sign off on. in fact, house republicans adjourned forb the day and they will be back january 1 at noon. joining us our capitol hill producer who is on all things for us, fiscal cliff and otherwise. chad, thanks for being here. i guess the republicans in the house side are saying we don't have anything. that this is just vice president biden and senator mcconnell and until we do it is great to read all these...
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eric cantor met with us through the week. he devised the strategy how to bring it to the floor to make it acceptable, to let reps who wanted to vote against certain parts of the bill they could do that, but the bill was going to pass, but listen, the bottom line is the republican speaker walked off the floor without allowing a vote. these republicans have no problem finding new york when they want money. they sent governor christie around the country raising millions for them. anyone from new york or new jersey who contributes one penny to the republican congressional campaign committee should have their head examined. i'm talking about the people in the neighborhood, people out of the homes, living in devastated homes. people who have lost their -- all that a lifelong possessions is absolutely disgraceful. i have to go back now, this weekend i'll be telling these people why the congress of the united states refused to give them the food and shelter that every other region has gotten. i gladly voted when it came to knit other
eric cantor met with us through the week. he devised the strategy how to bring it to the floor to make it acceptable, to let reps who wanted to vote against certain parts of the bill they could do that, but the bill was going to pass, but listen, the bottom line is the republican speaker walked off the floor without allowing a vote. these republicans have no problem finding new york when they want money. they sent governor christie around the country raising millions for them. anyone from new...
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cantor voted against it, as did kevin mccarthy, his chief whip. does that send a message to the chuckle head as your colleague said? if boehner and cantor is split, there's no reason we can't oppose the big deal? >> i'm proud of the speaker. he knew what needed to be done. he provided the cover for us to do, let the conference work its will. leadership is about leading and i think he did that. in the fights ahead of us, we're going to be awfully unified. there's no any difference in the ranks in terms of cutting spending and entitlements. i think the president played his best card in the opening round of the poker game last night. he's not going to get that one again. the revenue questions are over. it's all about spending and entitlement cuts. we'll seep how brave he is whether it comes to dealing with his party. >> do you think the leadership style by boehner is effective, though, to let your house caucus vent? it's almost the prodigal son, right? can you do that with a debt limit deal that could send the entire world in chaos? >> it's the trill
cantor voted against it, as did kevin mccarthy, his chief whip. does that send a message to the chuckle head as your colleague said? if boehner and cantor is split, there's no reason we can't oppose the big deal? >> i'm proud of the speaker. he knew what needed to be done. he provided the cover for us to do, let the conference work its will. leadership is about leading and i think he did that. in the fights ahead of us, we're going to be awfully unified. there's no any difference in the...
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the top two republicans, speaker john boehner and eric cantor were split. also notable, budget chairman paul ryan voted yes. the final gop count, 151 against the bill and 85 in favor. >> it was all about maintaining, if you will, the status quo of kick the can down the road. >> there's no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate will fail miserably in cutting spending. >> much better to make this deal now and move on to those other fights at the appropriate time, which is, by the way, just around the corner. >> some conservative pundits have been blasting republicans and newt gingrich tweeted "the gop has been engauged ged in a two-month dance of defeat and surrender. >> good morning, happy new year. >> good morning. >> happy new year. >> david, do you agree with your former boss? did republicans surrender? >> no, they were just faced with a very difficult choice. obviously in terms of the tax cuts, that's something that if republicans wanted to see go forward, we've been talking about that for years, it was originally a republic
the top two republicans, speaker john boehner and eric cantor were split. also notable, budget chairman paul ryan voted yes. the final gop count, 151 against the bill and 85 in favor. >> it was all about maintaining, if you will, the status quo of kick the can down the road. >> there's no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate will fail miserably in cutting spending. >> much better to make this deal now and move on to those other fights at the...
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house gop leader eric cantor telling the caucus he could not support the bill without spending cuts. all right. let's turn to nbc's mike viqueira who has been covering all the latest developments from washington on this. so vic, the reason we're in this place, this has something to do with a fig leaf? >> well, i think so. i think plainly what happened here is after it became apparent earlier in the day that the house republican conference did not like what the senate did in the wee hours last night at 2:00 in the morning, that they wanted to amend that bill, thereby throwing this whole thing into question and putting us on the fiscal cliff for possibly days more. they stared into the abyss after there was an eruption here on new year's day. and they saw that it would have been a public relations disaster. the senate would not have acted on any bill that they put on the floor that would have changed the senate bill. that means there would have been a new congress. that means the legislative slate would be wiped clean after thursday noon when the new congress is put into session that t
house gop leader eric cantor telling the caucus he could not support the bill without spending cuts. all right. let's turn to nbc's mike viqueira who has been covering all the latest developments from washington on this. so vic, the reason we're in this place, this has something to do with a fig leaf? >> well, i think so. i think plainly what happened here is after it became apparent earlier in the day that the house republican conference did not like what the senate did in the wee hours...
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eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it. before the vote, republicans took to the floor and voiced their concerns. >> there are no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate failed in cutting spending. >> i thought we were in a deficit crisis. i thought families were put at risk by this massive debt. what does this do about that? >> it was way past those senators bedtimes, they were blurry eyed when they were reading it we are trying to fill in the gap for where they missed a few things. >> i think it's unreasonable for senator reid to say something they produced on new your's eve, by a bun
eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it....
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eric cantor told them to be prepared to be in session through january 2nd. so remember yesterday we talked about optics, how bad it was for them to look like they weren't going to be in washington, d.c. they no longer have that problem. john boehner, one member who is on that conference call earlier today, told me, he said we're going to see what the senate has to do and what they will give us. he also made clear that he would not be comfortable putting a bill on the floor that would need all democratic votes to pass and only a handful of republicans. meaning as of right now, john boehner is sticking by the hastert rule. that's very significant because he feels that maybe they get something large scale if they can get a lot of republicans or this is just all for show to show the american people they're still there to the end. >> hold on. 6:30 on sunday? i mean, as harry reid pointed out, that's 48 hours. i mean, in terms of the optics and as you said, it's conference calls and no real details coming from the house republicans on what it is they would accept
eric cantor told them to be prepared to be in session through january 2nd. so remember yesterday we talked about optics, how bad it was for them to look like they weren't going to be in washington, d.c. they no longer have that problem. john boehner, one member who is on that conference call earlier today, told me, he said we're going to see what the senate has to do and what they will give us. he also made clear that he would not be comfortable putting a bill on the floor that would need all...
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speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor walking into that meeting. still waiting to hear how it is going. even before the meeting was called, cantor and other top republicans were saying they won't support the bill. the fate here is really uncertain. rich edson is live on capitol hill keeping track of this for us. rich, is there any word what specifically they're discussing in this meeting and whether or not they're making any progress? >> well, diane, the point here is whether or not to amend this bill, to change this bill or bring this bill, the proposal that passed the senate last evening up to the house floor to a vote. this is a decision that house republicans will have to make fairly soon here. they're getting pressure from a number of different folks, especially democrats who say, basically pressure them to hold a vote on it. >> we don't believe that compromise is a dirty word and unfortunately among house republicans that seems to be a growing sentiment. that even a bill that was put together by republicans and democrats in the united states
speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor walking into that meeting. still waiting to hear how it is going. even before the meeting was called, cantor and other top republicans were saying they won't support the bill. the fate here is really uncertain. rich edson is live on capitol hill keeping track of this for us. rich, is there any word what specifically they're discussing in this meeting and whether or not they're making any progress? >> well, diane, the point here is whether or...
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john boehner and eric cantor put their plan "b" on a friday on the floor 69 house of representatives. it set the income threshold at $1 million over which you would be taxed at a higher rate. they wanted to do that because you simply can't beat something with nothing. they wanted to have something to send over to the senate to negotiate with in addition to what they had sent over last summer which was pretty much a nonstarter that they had recognized. that crashed and burned and went down in flames at which point john boehner said, look, it's up to the senate. they can negotiate -- harry reid can negotiate with president obama however they want to work it. they essentially punted and said it's up to you. that didn't go very well. mitch mcconnell the republican leader and harry reid at one point stopped negotiating at about 7:00 on saturday night. on sunday morning mitch mcconnell calls joe biden. they get together, offers are traded back and forth, and presto, voila, they come up with a deal and they put it on the floor and it sets those thresholds at $400,000 and $450,000 and it's pa
john boehner and eric cantor put their plan "b" on a friday on the floor 69 house of representatives. it set the income threshold at $1 million over which you would be taxed at a higher rate. they wanted to do that because you simply can't beat something with nothing. they wanted to have something to send over to the senate to negotiate with in addition to what they had sent over last summer which was pretty much a nonstarter that they had recognized. that crashed and burned and went...
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house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m. house democratic leader nancy pelosi attempted to put pressure on tonight. she posted this on twitter saying quote, strong majority of house democrats support the bipartisan senate bill that passed 89-8. confident it will pass and speaker boehner allows an up or down vote. and republicans like congressman jack kingston of georgia blame the senate for a hastily written bill. >> it was way past those senators' bedtime. they were blurry eyed when they were reading it. we're trying to fill in the gap where they missed a few things. >> let's bring in luke russert who has been covering this story on capitol hill. what's the latest on the meeting? we do understand earlier you were standing in front of speaker boehner's office and he was having a leadership meeting. >> they're having a leadership meeting where they're trying to fik
house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m. house democratic leader nancy pelosi attempted to put pressure on tonight. she posted this on twitter saying quote, strong majority of house democrats support the bipartisan senate bill that passed 89-8. confident it will pass and speaker boehner allows an up...
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if eric cantor and john bainer and kevin mccarthy don't like it, who is going to buck leadership and vote with democrats on something like this? he said, if there is at least lukewarm support from republican leaders you're likely to see more than 40 house republicans vote for it and it should pass pretty easily. then of course there is the question of are there democrats, perhaps the more liberal members of their caucus, who don't like this either? because you're going to essentially need every single democrat to vote for this and many who have said they don't like this deal. >> that would bring us to what our mike viqueira calls the inertia scenario where they decide the best thing is to go over the fiscal cliff. the democrats for some of them from their perspective it is not a bad thing because they think they have the upper hand in public opinion and also that it basically assures the elimination of bush tax cuts. on the republican side it does the same thing but then they can say, i didn't vote for a tax cut. un, they just expired. is there -- are there enough people there who re
if eric cantor and john bainer and kevin mccarthy don't like it, who is going to buck leadership and vote with democrats on something like this? he said, if there is at least lukewarm support from republican leaders you're likely to see more than 40 house republicans vote for it and it should pass pretty easily. then of course there is the question of are there democrats, perhaps the more liberal members of their caucus, who don't like this either? because you're going to essentially need every...
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eric cantor, for example, two of those. but john boehner has been re-elected as speaker of the house. >> what happens next, dana? i think he's going to be introduced by nancy pelosi and speaks before the full group. is that correct? >> reporter: that's right. we expect to hear remarks from the speaker in a short while as soon as they finish formally tallying the votes to formally make him the speaker. it will be very interesting to hear the tone that he strikes given the kind of rough week, maybe rough month he's had. >> when do they start working, dana? when do they get to work, toke? >> they do tomorrow. speaking of the rough week he had, one thing they'll do tomorrow is to vote on at least nine -- about $9 billion in federal aid for sandy victims. remember, he decided not to take that vote in the lame duck session, which ended yesterday. actually, formally ended today, but they were supposed to take the vote yesterday, and then because of the very loud, very vocal, and very personal complaints about that decision, he sor
eric cantor, for example, two of those. but john boehner has been re-elected as speaker of the house. >> what happens next, dana? i think he's going to be introduced by nancy pelosi and speaks before the full group. is that correct? >> reporter: that's right. we expect to hear remarks from the speaker in a short while as soon as they finish formally tallying the votes to formally make him the speaker. it will be very interesting to hear the tone that he strikes given the kind of...
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. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he quietly said there was going to be no vote. and chris christie tried to get in touch with the speaker. he called boehner four times, never got a response. and really this was an 11th hour last-minute surprise. and that's why you saw so much anger. the worst of which were from republicans. and i think sort of the last-minute, surprising nature of this really set off all of these folks today. >> jennifer: so the question is why, andy? with not bringing that bill to a vote was that maybe boehner's way of reminding everyone that he is still in charge? >> there is also a shakespearean element if you will to these
. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he...
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there were also some spending cuts that the vice president and house majority leader eric cantor negotiated a year 1/2 ago that were put on the table. perhaps if you include some of that you increase some of the spending. what the democrats will be the spending on doctors fix, that is preventing doctors from getting a pay cut if they treat medicare patients and extending patch for alternative minimum tax to insure 10 of millions of americans don't have to pay the amt for this year, that is something congress typically does at the end of every year. it is not honest budgeting in washington. these are ideas that have come about basically as democrats and republican haves to throw the spending together at the end of every year. adam: we have about a minute before the president will start speaking the spending cuts that are on the table, there are a lot of people say that is enough to put the economy into recession. is that going to keep the democrats from possibly approving this deal? >> depends on the spending cuts. right now you're talking about $94 billion in what is known as the sequester.
there were also some spending cuts that the vice president and house majority leader eric cantor negotiated a year 1/2 ago that were put on the table. perhaps if you include some of that you increase some of the spending. what the democrats will be the spending on doctors fix, that is preventing doctors from getting a pay cut if they treat medicare patients and extending patch for alternative minimum tax to insure 10 of millions of americans don't have to pay the amt for this year, that is...
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cantor and kevin mccarty. kathy mcmorris rogers entereded this statement. the house will honor the statement to consider the senate agreement if it is passed. whether the house will rescind or properly amend the measure won't be met until they and the american people can review the legislation. >> what do you think the chance is with both parties not happy with the compromise reached. what do you think the chances are that it will pass, probably in the senate but not run into trouble in the house? >> you heard vice president biden. the white house has put forth a deal and gotten some republicans is in leadership so go along with this. is a big step. we're going to see the republican party rear its ugly head and see how rogue they want to be in going against the majority of americans. very clear. you look at every poll out there protect social security, medicare, medicaid. in this round, that's exactly what the white house did. republicans want to go against that, they have to deal with it in 2014. they want th
cantor and kevin mccarty. kathy mcmorris rogers entereded this statement. the house will honor the statement to consider the senate agreement if it is passed. whether the house will rescind or properly amend the measure won't be met until they and the american people can review the legislation. >> what do you think the chance is with both parties not happy with the compromise reached. what do you think the chances are that it will pass, probably in the senate but not run into trouble in...
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eric cantor now saying he opposes that bill. this is -- this as house democrats got a visit from mitch mcconnell and hammered out this deal. brett joins us now. how significant that cantor came out against this? >> good afternoon. it is very significant he said publicly that he opposes the senate bill. the real question is whether as house majority leader that he will be with other voters voting against a piece of legislation that hits the floor, or whether it moves to the floor at all. you heard the democratic leader, nancy pelosi, come out calling for an up or down vote as soon as possible. we don't know the plan for republicans. we are just getting word from the speaker's spokesperson saying there will be conversations throughout the afternoon suggesting this could take some time after the house gop caucus meeting we are told by reporters and producers up there that members were coming out saying it seemed likely that there would be a process to amend the senate bill, and then send it back with additional spending cuts. there
eric cantor now saying he opposes that bill. this is -- this as house democrats got a visit from mitch mcconnell and hammered out this deal. brett joins us now. how significant that cantor came out against this? >> good afternoon. it is very significant he said publicly that he opposes the senate bill. the real question is whether as house majority leader that he will be with other voters voting against a piece of legislation that hits the floor, or whether it moves to the floor at all....
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house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis, but yes of the fiscal cliff. it seems we have this moment where this animal goes over the cliff, all limbs are still rotating aro
house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans...